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As-Salamu Alaykum wa Rahmatu Llahi,<\/p>\n
I noticed that doubts keep being raised and judgments keep getting delivered by someone who claims to be a student of knowledge, yet they don’t show the requisite fear of speaking without knowledge and delivering verdicts without the necessary qualifications.<\/p>\n
A person’s fear in delivering verdicts should be towards Allah and not the creation. And that fear is evident when you find them adhering to scholarly precedents and when they avoid offering their own opinion on matters.<\/p>\n
So once again I find myself compelled to respond and In Sha’ Allah, this will be the last effort I make to clarify the confusion that this brother, Nazeelu Chinguetti, has fallen into and is dragging others into along with him.<\/p>\n
1) Another point I want to add is that Uthman also rejected this and said it didn’t occur in the lifetime of Rasulullah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Ibn \u1e24ajar mentions the view of `Uthm\u0101n RA in his Talkh\u012b\u1e63 al-\u1e24ab\u012br without a chain and attributes it to the `Iraq\u012by\u016bn. Without an \u2018Isn\u0101d it\u2019s not possible to ascertain the strength or weakness of the report. Please bring forward a chain of narration if you want this to serve as evidence, since you yourself criticize evidence submitted from historical records.<\/p>\n
2) Abu Dawud also said that there are narrations in this topic but nothing is authentic from it! And Ibn Hajr mentioned the statement of Abu Dawud to refute the narration that Ali carried the head of Mirhab the Jewish warrior to Rasulullah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
That\u2019s fine, however it\u2019s your opinion of the intention of the author. The point is to stick to the understanding of the scholars and they discussed this matter thoroughly.<\/p>\n
An-Nawaw\u012b, ar-R\u0101fi\u2019\u012b, a\u1e6d-\u1e6ca\u1e25\u0101w\u012b, al-Juwayn\u012b and Ibn al-Mulqin all discussed it in depth and the result was that they held the transport of heads to be permissible. Also, it appears that Ibn \u2018Ab\u012b Shaybah and al-Bayhaq\u012b held it to be permissible as well. In fact any scholar who discussed the matter in depth appears to have permitted the transport of heads, although some placed conditions on it based on their understanding of the reports, for example, they understood the objection of \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr to be related to transporting heads or cadavers of polytheists to Mad\u012bnah. Some of them mentioned that there should be some Ma\u1e63la\u1e25ah in it.<\/p>\n
You have yet to produce a single scholar saying that it is \u1e24ar\u0101m. Yet you keep repeating it. Doesn\u2019t that concern you? It should concern readers.<\/p>\n
Here\u2019s what Ibn al-Mulqin said after quoting \u2018Ab\u016b D\u0101wud\u2019s statement about the lack of authenticity in the reports:<\/p>\n
I [Ibn al-Mulqin] say: As for the famous \u1e24ad\u012bth in an-Nas\u0101\u2019\u012b and other collections, from Abd Allah bin Fayr\u016bz ad-Daylam\u012b, on authority of his father: \u2018I came to the Prophet SAWS with the head of al-\u2018Aswad al-`Ans\u012b\u2019, then its transmitter \u1e0camrah is trustworthy, however he is not corroborated in it.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n
Al-\u1e24\u0101kim \u2018Ab\u016b \u2018A\u1e25mad said in al-Kun\u0101: \u2018He is mistaken from two perspectives- 1) He AS mentioned the rebellion of al-`Ans\u012b from \u1e62an`\u0101\u2019 and Musaylimah from Yam\u0101mah after him, not in his lifetime; 2) Al-\u2018Aswad bin Ka`b al-`Ans\u012b was killed in 11AH in the time of \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr and Fayr\u016bz ad-Daylam\u012b killed him\u2019.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n
Ibn al-Qa\u1e6d\u1e6d\u0101n disagreed and said: \u2018Its narrators are all trustworthy and it is not said that \u1e0camrah is not corroborated in it, for indeed he is trustworthy. With regards to his being unique in reporting it, then it is Ghar\u012bb.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n
As for the statement of `Abd al-\u1e24aqq right after this \u1e24ad\u012bth, saying that the report of the killing of al-\u2018Aswad did not come until after the death of the Messenger of Allah SAWS, then it is not correct. The historians said it on the basis that there is no text saying that he actually met the Messenger of Allah SAWS, rather it is possible that it means that he came with [the head] to the Messenger of Allah SAWS setting out to reach him and surprise him with the glad tidings of the conquest, then the Messenger of Allah SAWS happened to die [before he reached him].<\/strong><\/em> [Al-Badr al-Mun\u012br 9\/109]<\/p>\n
And this is btw a good example of how scholars of Sirah oppose the scholars of Hadith! Many scholars of Sirah narrate that it wasn’t Ali who killed Mirhab but rather if was Muhammad Ibn Maslamah and there’s other opinions as well among them while Muslim and others narrated that it was Ali!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
That\u2019s why it\u2019s important to rely on the views of scholars and not try to reach our own conclusions. Even if we can get to the bottom of historical events which do not have any primary texts which discuss them, we can at least rely on scholars to put each element of evidence in its proper perspective. They bring to bear their knowledge of history, \u1e24ad\u012bth, U\u1e63\u016bl and Fiqh to determine a \u1e24ukm. Your attempts at flexing your muscles in those areas appears to be amateur at best.<\/p>\n
The incident of Mirhab is mentioned in authentic narrations without the addition of ‘he went the head’ and the narration that adds it doesn’t equal the other one in strength while all of Sahabah didn’t object to Abu Bakr’s Inkar on this and therefore it’s weakened by these Qara’in.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
That\u2019s fine, however Ibn \u1e24ajar declared the narration of Ibn \u2018Ab\u012b \u2018Awf\u0101\u2019 to be \u1e24asan, and it mentions the head of \u2018Ab\u016b Jahl being brought to him SAWS. As for \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr\u2019s rejection of the head brought to him, then you have yet to address the reason for his rejection. If there are Qar\u0101\u2019in which indicate his rejection was due to the head being brought to Mad\u012bnah as some scholars suggest, then you have to submit that it is possible.<\/p>\n
3) al-Sha’bi also denied that any head was carried to Rasulullah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
What does this prove except ash-Sha`b\u012b was not aware of any authentic narration on the matter, just like az-Zuhr\u012b?<\/p>\n
4) This in an action that didn’t occur in the lifetime of Rasulullah but since people started doing it in the time of Sahabah and Tabi’in they rejected this action. This is why we see Abu Bakr, Uthman, al-Zuhri and others rejecting it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
You have made a judgment of ‘weakness’ on narrations that scholars consider authentic\/fair. That does not give you the right to declare that something did or did not occur in the lifetime of the Prophet SAWS based on your own judgment. This is not the behavior of a student of knowledge. Scholars have authenticated narrations which indicate heads were brought to the Prophet SAWS, among them Ibn Hajar and al-‘Albani. The most you can do or say is that you adhere to the views of other scholars on those narrations, but you have yet to bring those scholars forward.<\/p>\n
A\u1e6d-\u1e6ca\u1e25\u0101w\u012b made the argument that all the commanders of the armies and Companions RA who were in ash-Sh\u0101m when the head of Yann\u0101q was sent to \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr RA agreed on doing so. \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr RA used his \u2018Ijtih\u0101d and they used theirs. The Companions RA also did not object when a head was sent to Ibn az-Zubayr RA. You named az-Zuhr\u012b and ash-Sha\u2019b\u012b from the T\u0101bi\u2019\u012bn, however there were far more Companions RA whose agreement is implied in dispatching the head to \u2018Ab\u016b Bakr RA and far more T\u0101bi\u2019\u012bn whose agreement is implied by not rejecting the head being sent to Ibn az-Zubayr RA.<\/p>\n
Please stop making a fool of yourself in the areas of Usul, Fiqh and Hadith, In Sha’ Allah. And stick to the views of qualified scholarship instead of inventing your own.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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